Category: philosophy/religion topics
hi.
who here bielives in angels?
i mean, i watch this programme in the UK and it's about angels coming at the last moment to help with a desperate situation.
who agries with this idea?
I believe in angels. I have had friends and seen so many stories where they were present.
Troy
I definitely believe angels exist. We don't always know how, where, or why, or even who, but I believe they exist.
Hi Dan yeah I believe you! I believe in angels! I also believe in sperit guides too! But that's another story! I'm getting off the topic! As a Christian yes I believe in angels! Is the show called Angels and other stories?
I believe in the Hells Angels and they are the only angels I'd to bother with.
no hope, it's called it's a mirracle
dear me, there are none so blind as those who believe in religion, due to a complete absence of self belief.
i use to but with every thing that i have experienced i now am starting to believe religion was made up for week minded people to give them hope and comfort
have to say I agree with goblin and Zenter. I'm not so sure whether it's about religion having been made up for weak minded people, but more that it was invented by people because they didn't want to believe that there's no such thing as life after death.
Dan I used to watch that show! It's hosted by Richard Thomas who played John Boy on the Waltons! I haven't watched It's a Miracle since my Dad died! I guess I'll have to pray for those of you who don't beleive in a religion! I'm a Christian and I'm strong in my beliefs!
I agree with sugarbaby, zentar, and goblin
I believe in angels. I don't have any proof whether or not they or God exist, although I've heard about people personally encountering them, both on TV and real life. I know it would be hard or impossible for people to believe in any of that because it's not something that can be seen or scientifically tested for, but for me I guess it's just a feeling like someone's watching me or with me when I know that there is actually not another person there with me.
Off Topic. I heard something very ironic when the Finish rock group Lordi won Eurovision, a religious leader in Finland accused Lordi's passionate fans of needing a crutch to support themselves, and looking for some meaning in their lives by following a group who sing about assorted dark subjects, trolls & devils ect. He was so blind he could not see the ironic arrogance of his statement. I agree with Zentar, it's abuse of the fundamental human right to think for yourself.
Hi I am new round here, but I can deffinately tell you that i believe in angels. I think that there is an angel watching us always. I believe they have come to earth in human form, we just never really know about it
I definitely believe in angels and spiritual guidance. That doesn't make us weak-minded, just following a different believing path than others. I believe that angels are both in human form, spirits within our friends, within our insentives of what we and they want to become, etc. But I also feel that even after they no longer appear physically, the spirit still remains. I definitely respect the other opinions, I just don't think that one is weaker than the other.
i believe in angels, however, i respect others beliefs.
The bible says something about the fact that the strangers we entertain might be angels and we might not even know it so yes I definitely believe in angels.
I most definitley believe in the presence of angels.
Some would not make it through really horendous ordeals without them.
I don't believe they are actual creatures, but a peaceful spirit, sent to calm and guide us through the stormy waters of life.
I was once told that aliens are fallen angels who are preparing for the great counterfeit of god's kingdom on earth. One day the aliens or fallen angels will herald the coming of the messiah or the antichrist, and all will believe!
I once read a story that is supposed to be true. A young woman's car broke down on a very bad side of town. She got out to walk to somewhere to ask for help. She started to go down an alley but saw a man standing at the end of the alley and became even more afraid than she already was. She whispered a prayer asking God to protect her. She walked safely down the alley without the man trying anything. Later this same man committed a crime and she recognized his picture on the TV. Since the police were looking for anyone in the area who could identify him and state that he was in that area of town at the time the crime was committed, she went to the police and offered her story about where and when she had seen him. She saw the man at the police station and asked him why, if he had been out there to find a victim to rape, he hadn't attacked her. He looked at her and said, "Are you kidding? You had those two big guys walking with you." She could only assume that "those two big guys" must have been angels because she was alone that night.
So I guess I would like to believe in stories like that, but it isn't easy. I would love to believe that someone is watching over me.
Daniel (Iternity), I also like watching "It's A Miracle" and think it's really interesting. I don't know whether or not I think angels exist, but I do believe in spiret guides, like one of the earlier board posts was saying. I also have an awnament of a worry angel in a small box which I got last christmas.
Well, I believe in spirits whom we can call upon in times of need or who may come to us without being called. They could be family members, good friends or people whom we admire. That's my own personal belief that I've had ever since I was about 13 or so, and I've had personal experiences that varify it, at least for me. But I also believe that there might be generally good beings that watch over us. In my religion, these are called daimons (daemons... where the word deamon comes from, but very different meaning). These are all good. The highest is the Agathos Daimon. The way I understand it these are like household gods, but to be honest, I really don't know too much about them. I know you're supposed to honour your Agathos Daimon, but sadly, I'm a little lacking in that area, though I do thank the spirits every night who have helped me along that day, whomever they may be. I also find it interesting that there's a Christian belief about angels who look like regular people. There's one in Hellenic Polytheism that says we should treat all people with xenia (zenia hospitality) because we never know whether or not the person with whom we're speaking is really a god or goddess.
Now I have a story. When I was a baby, and just came out of an eye opperation, Mom was with me and there was a storm. All the shops were closed, and I needed diapers. She had alot of money, but no diapers and no way to get back to New Jersey. She even tried calling a friend of her's who has a pilot license, but no luck. Finally, this guy noticed her standing there, almost in tears. He told her to follow him and come on his plane. She did so and noticed that it was full of businesspeople. According to her, we got from Boston Massichusetts to Newark New Jersey in 45 minutes, which is unheard of on a good day. Well, the next day, she called the airport so she could thank the man who'd helped her and the lady said "I don't know what you're talking about mam. No planes left this airport, commercial or otherwise. They were all grounded because of the storm." She then noticed that she still had her original flight ticket. It was never taken from her, and we still have it to this day. Mom thinks now that it was an angel or one of the gods (she calls them my gods) who helped us along. I think it was Hermes and maybe Zeus. Either way, I still find it amazing.
I believe in Angels as well. They are sent to guide us, and can be in spearet or human form .
Yes, believe in angels. There is a god, and yes, there are angels!
Yes there is a god, and angels, and heaven and hell.
I believe angels come and help in desprit situations, too.
John
Hi, I believe in angels. I have learned alot about them in the bible. I believe there are Guardian angels. I believe they watch over us when we don't know it. My friend says that she has seen one before, I haven't though but then again I haven't seen anything. lol I know there real and I've learned that when you go to heaven you will meet them so yeah...
Yes to angels.
Yes. i feel like i have many garden angels.
I belive in angels. There are nice angels who help you when your sad, I call them friends. There are angels who protect you when your in danger, they're called cops, or sometimes firemen or soldiers, it really depends on the danger, men with guns, go with that.
Also, in an earlier post someone told that story about a woman who saw a guy who she thought was going to rape her standing by an alley, so instead of going, "maybe I should walk the other direction and not walk down this alley" she goes, "dear god, send angels to protect me" then walks down the dark alley past said scary man. Now, I know I haven't read the bible in a while, but have they added an eleventh commandment, "thou shalt do really stupid things so that you can tell uplifting stories to reporters on daytime TV?"
Little tip, if a man breaks in to your house, or is chasing you down an alley, or if a woman is, lets not be sexist hear, do one of two things, A. run, and do it really really fast in a direction that won't take you nearer to said man, or woman. Second, shoot them, preferably with something that will make them not want to break into your house or chase you anymore. You should not, in any circumstances, mumble pointless words into the air for some old man with a beard who, if yuo really think about it, planned the man, or woman, to break into your house or chase you in the first place. Everything is gods plan, god knows and sees all. So thus, he already knew the man, or woman, was going to chase you, and didn't care five minutes ago when he could have kept them from breaking into your hosue. Yeah, great guy to turn to in times of trouble.
Sorry, I ramble. The point is, angels don't exist, nice people exist, find a nice person, make friends with them, and stop looking for winged cherubs on your shoulder.
Although, charlie's angels, wouldn't mind having them on my... um... shoulder.
I also believe in angels...
Okay. First of all, we who believe in god and/or angels are not weak-minded at all. I believe there is a whole spiritual world out there that we can't see. that doesn't mean that they don't exist. I do not believe in spirit guides. Actually yes I do, but they are more ocultic than in the christian religion. I believe we have guardian angels, and I believe that angels can even bring messages from god. Am I stretching some of you? am I sounding ridiculous to others? So be it, but yes, Angels do exist, and, unless they come in human form, you can not see them.
very well said, Cody. couldn't agree more.
Posted by Pure love:
"I believe there is a whole spiritual world out there that we can't see. that doesn't mean that they don't exist."
this also doesn't mean they do exist. See you're going on whats called faith.
You believe in something because you "want" it to be real.
atheists believe in something because of irrefutable evidence.
Hi Dan,
like others, my faith is very important to me, it has helped me through some really tough times. Being human, I have got lost sometime's but I always get back to my relationship with god. I do believe that there is someone watching over each of us (our angels), also on this earth we can meet a special person or someone who is extrordinary who I would think of as angels also. My guide dogs are my angels here on earth.
Nice topic.
Sabrina :)
I have to ask though, if we have someone watching over us, why do bad things still happen to us? This system of angels seems really inefficient if it can't keep us from getting in car accidents, wars, plagues, famins, floods, wildfires, earthquakes, tornadoes, and an extensive list of other afflictions. Those are some really, really unobservant cherubs. I mean come on, I'm blind and I could prevent some of those things if you gave me magical powers and a set of wings.
lol sorry for my bad spelling grr! should have been extraordinary.
silver lightning I know what you mean! All I can say is that I dont' see an angel with magical powers they are just there to love and care, that is all I can say really. I know a few years ago I had a serious operation, and that morning before I went in to hospital I was lying in bed in a lot of pain. (I didn't know I would be going in to hospital later that morning, nor did I know I would be rushed in to theatre. but it was while I was lying there, a lovely warm feeling came over me, it was full of love. I had never experienced that before, or since but it was amazing and so powerful.
anyway enough of me natterring! ... lol!
Sabrina :)
I believe that there are angels, yes. But they are not the fluffy, sweetness and light beings that everyone thinks they are. They are parasites, who delight in tormenting and keeping humanity enslaved. I and others have encountered such beings, and their masks were stripped away from them. They are not our friends.
I believe in God, and this is to whom I make prayers, but I find angels to be a bit of a difficult concept.
I know some who believe if they keep a dog in the house, it won't be graced by angels. These are the same people who believe that God is one and you shouldn't divide his power by praying to prophets, saints, ancestors, anyone but God. OK. And the whole idea of a dog being such a low animal it'll keep away angels is absurd. Um, let's see, these fervent believers mistreated their own daughters, destroyed institutions of learning for girls, attacked civilians, but hey, there was no dog in the house, so they must have been 'graced by angels'. Bloody absurd.
So wait, you believe in God, an all knowing, all powerful, all present being who can do anything, but simply chooses not to, who loves everyone and is gentle and compassionate, but will send you to a lake of boiling fiery lava if you piss him off; that you believe in. However, a kind spirit who protects you and helps to guide your path and shows you how much people need you in overplayed christmas movies, that is beyond the realm of your belief system? I mean, god you can get your mind around, but a nice flying girl in a dress, that's rediculous, is that what your saying?
And, as for disliking any religion who says you should only pray to god and no one else, have you read the ten commandments lately? Thou shalt have no other gods before me. That's what it says, its said it for thousands of years. If your going to call yourself monotheistic, you kinda only have to pray to one god, pray to more of them, and your not monotheistic anymore. You can't call yourself a religion with one god, if you have seventeen gods, it doesn't mathematically, logically, or theologically work.
and lastly, if you had a shred of ability to actually look at anything critically, you would realize that the muslim faith, to whom you so crassly brashly and snobbishly referred, does not condone the attacking of civilians, those people are called terrorists, and if you read the news lately, you'll realize that not all of them are muslims.
As for women in the muslim faith, in all the research I've done on it, I've never once seen a thing that says, "thou shalt cut the clits off of your daughters". That's a cultural thing, not a religious thing. If you weren't a twit, you'd see the difference there.
Oh, and if that weren't enough for you. The god you so constantly cling to, you know, that one they preach about in church, I'm sure you've heard of him, his name is... well... um... god, (christians really aren't imaginative with god names), anyway, that book you always read about him in, the bible, it bloody hates women, from the very first chapter. You remember learning about that pesky little original sin thing? Yeah, that was all you women's faults, if you believe the bible. You know all those female teachers, CEO's, politicians and the like, those are against the bible too. You ever said a word in church, your going against the bible. You ever gone in public showing your face, your going against the bible too. Oh, I bet you didn't know those veils you criticize the muslims for wearing, were based on something in the old testament of the bible, which the muslims believe in by the way.
So, until you believe in something absolutely perfect, how about you shut the fuck up and try criticizing people for something idiotic, like believing in god at all, instead of blaming them for things you think are because of a religion, and actually have nothing to do with them. But of course you won't, because your the stereotypical religious nut who thinks that your shit don't stink. Well it does, you bigotist prick, it sure as hell does.
i'm just going to post one quote here, i'm not going to react to such blatent ignorence, and racist tones. i would like to direct that poster to the manifesto that thethe man who attacked norway believed in, would that be a rite wing christian fundimentalist group? anyway i digress. let me leave you with this one quote.
The new age is upon us
And yet the past refuses to rest in its shallow grave
For those who hide behind the false image of the son of man
shall stand before God!!! make of that what you will, and also the most quoted proffet in the holy qura'n is jesus, remember that befor you spout your hate because of cultural tradition, rather than religious tredition. get your facts streight befor you come with this.
Silly rabbits, myths are for kids!
How about certain posters play the good little atheists they claim to be instead of attacking others for their doubts about an aspect of one religion? True atheists respect the beliefs of others and don't attack them personally for not sharing their beliefs or lack of such. So far I have heard this individual attack everyone from Christians who want to share their faith to me who has certain doubts about one faith? It's fine and dandy to say "It teaches this", but when so called believers' actions say something else, it tends to lend doubt. Or a need for those believers to speak out against the misconduct that's giving 'em all a bad name. Or out and out reform. Does this board have no standards at all? I frequent another board, and there are moderators who won't stand for this kind of conduct, will even ban posters if they pull enough stunts. I'm out of here and off to more intelligent chats with more adult like people.
Oh grow a pair and stop trying to pussyfoot around your point. "A certain little atheist"? My name is Cody, ok, its easy, its four letters, C O D Y. Memorize it, until you stop being a bigotist twit, you'll hear it a lot.
There is a world of difference between me saying that the bible is riddled with mistakes, impossibilities, and down right cruelty, and you saying that muslims blow themselves up as a part of their religion. What is that difference you may ask? That difference is that the former, that means the first one, is true, while the latter, that means last one, is not.
There is absolutely nothing in the muslim faith, anywhere, about blowing yourself up. Just like there is nothing in the bible about machinegunning european vacation spots, but it still happens. You know why it happens, because some people are insane, and some people are stupid, and some people are both. It has nothing to do with religion.
That's about as idiotic as saying that you can find reasons in the catcher in the rye for shooting John Lennon. I've read the catcher in the rye, and John Lennon isn't mentioned in it once. Not a single bloody time.
That means, that all the people who claim that the catcher in the rye made them do it, are what we all call insane. Its a simple word, kinda like my name, practice it, you'll get it eventually. Just repeat after me, insane.
As for the board having standards, yes, it has standards, it has the standards of those who aren't going to let you criticize a religion of something that it is innocent of. As well as the standards of people who have the balls to actually come out and say it to your face that your a biggoted prick, rather than pussyfooting around it and trying to act like we're being nice people.
You need to grow the fuck up, turn off spongebob, and start actually thinking about what your saying, and what's going on in the world around you. The way you talk, I wouldn't be surprised if you got your political and cultural theory from a south park episode.
Lastly, if you frequent a board where people get banned for their opinions, then frequent it more often and leave your biggotry off these boards.
I do! I do believe in angels! Psalms 91:11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.